1. Transcendent / Divine,For background for this 3-part series, see “The Three Sources of Moral Knowledge [Orientation]” by John Lennox and Jordan B. Peterson1 and Déjà Vu – Times II, part one: “Moral Orientation? Where Are We?”2
2. Social / Power Consensus, and
3. Self as Sovereign.
At first blush, consensus might seem the most pragmatic and democratic way to establish morals and values for a complex society, until we remember the things that have been done in the name of social / power consensus.3
Lennox and Peterson use the analogy of Nazi Germany to illustrate the problems with social / power consensus, but the Nazis are just one of many historical genocides and massacres that unfolded under a social / power consensus. This partial list of historical examples4 is shocking; not to mention the B.C. and A.D. millennia of slave-trading, enslavement, wars, and violent domination. In our own time, we have witnessed decades of proxy wars, “legal” abortions, tyrannical regimes, and quasi-hidden atrocities like the Phoenix program5 all under social / power consensus.
Just ponder how the Ten Commandments from a divine / transcendent orientation have fared under social / power consensus?
[1] Thou shalt have no other gods before me;And what of the global COVID narrative where once freedom-loving, courteous peoples and nations morphed into bullies, aggressors, accusers, coercers, and snitches; into fearful, cruel, blind and deaf amnesiacs. Just listen to the National Citizens Inquiry (NCI6) to get a sense of what a social / power consensus did to the lives and integrity of millions worldwide. And let us never forget how captured the majority of our medics, judges, teachers, leaders, “experts” and enforcers were by a coercive, false narrative.
[2] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness ... [nor] bow down ... to them, nor serve them; ...
[3] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; ....
[4] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. ....
[5] Honour thy father and thy mother ....
[6] Thou shalt not kill.
[7] Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[8] Thou shalt not steal.
[9] Thou shalt not bear false witness ....
[10] Thou shalt not covet ...
Perhaps worst of all is the present morass of “gender” politics inverting the creation of Day Six7 into a medical and pharma windfall. Are we so blind that we do not see this for what it is? Are we not aware of what unethical pscience8 can achieve through food, pharma, trauma, mental contagion, and menticide9? Are we such dupes (under an illusion of compassion10) that we think disorders and dysphorias described in the DMV5 are, now, to be affirmed and facilitated? When was the threat of suicide, if one did not get one’s feelings affirmed, ever acceptable? When was it ever compassionate to encourage body mutilation to “feel” better or to become oneself?
How are “spiritually”-aware adults (“expert” or not, LDS or not) who guide socially / emotionally confused and / or abused children into the arms of profiteers any better than infidels? I suspect they will be deemed worse.
Let us ask: When were adolescent feelings ever the end of the story? Are we implying to youth that if God doesn’t give a quick fix to confusion, that time and maturity won’t help either? Instead of trusting in and seeking help (patiently) from the Creator, do we try to fast-track the fix and force it on others because God-created hormones will not wait? Are consensus-captured parents any better than captured-“experts” at deciding when to chemically castrate or sex-change (exchange) a child? And when did anyone ever have the right to cause or to consent to cause harm or injury to a child? Even the child does not have legal capacity to consent to harm by another, even by a parent. And don’t we already know plenty of parents and others who have been held legally accountable for harm to a child? except now it’s encouraged if called “gender-affirming care”? And “conversion therapy”11 (even talk-therapy) is outlawed in many places after “gender-affirming” conversion has been achieved. Just consider all the inversions, projections, and “self”-incriminations of pseudoscientific practice that one finds in this one wiki article (“conversion therapy”).
Of course, dysphoric children need compassion, and understanding, but not the corruption of compassion that escalates feelings and confusion into irreversible, life-altering sterility and life-long medical / pharma after-care.
Give adolescents the full story. Acknowledge the thousands of de-transitioners. Let dysphoric children hear the “down-side” of social / power consensus. Help them understand that “identity crisis” and “role confusion” are the short-term norm (known and studied for decades12) for most adolescents; that they are in the midst of psycho-social-physical development and that this abnormal spike in “gender” dysphoria is sourced in a social / mental construct, NOT in some erroneous sex-assignment at or before birth. Sex is a physical construct, visible and invisible. No amount of cutting, cosmetics, or imagining can change billions of XX to XY or vice versa; nor does it work to pretend we are sovereign beings, accountable only to self, but with the sovereign right to compel others to see and accept whatever we allege. We are not potter’s clay to mush and mold ourselves at whim:
6 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? (Old Testament | Isaiah 29:16)And another thing: what of the social / power consensus of DEI13 ideology that is, in reality, destroying all the real DEI gains of the past 70 years? The faux, coercive DEI being preached by captured, coerced corps, CEOs, et al. is but one more “turning of things upside down” presaging another déjà vu collapse, as some corps already know.
If we consider scripture history, we can see that almost every cause of lamentation arose because God’s people fell into a social / power consensus orientation. What built the tower of Babel? the great and spacious buildings of then and now? What kept the children of Israel in bondage for hundreds of years? What brought about a turning away from the judge-system to a desire for kings “like all the nations”14? What do we think undergird the killing of Jesus?
In our own day, social / power consensus is aggressively destroying transcendent / divine orientation. Infiltrators, provocateurs, deceivers, and dupers have maneuvered their way into every level of government, every agency, every church, and every institution, weaponizing a deluded form of “love thy neighbour” over “love the Lord thy God” and promoting trust in (corrupted, psychopathic) pscience. Let us ask ourselves: Where is my orientation? What is the orientation of leaders as manifest in word, deed, silence? Are we being asked to pretend? to live a lie?
The reality of this last test and gathering is that believers in transcendent / divine orientation will likely become targets for scorn, coercion, and censorship15 by advocates of social / power consensus. We are seeing it already. If déjà vu holds true, it may even escalate to a repeat of death threats as recorded in the Ancient Americas that preceded His first coming,16 even if that seems impossible, but then who could have imagined the cruelty and crimes of these past four COVID years.
Will we be discerning or will we follow the pied-pipers of social / power consensus?
PS: Feb 15, 2024: As for consensus advocates who feel they are the persecuted, maligned ones, perhaps they are; God knows, but what if criticism is in the same sense as those (like priests of Baal, idolaters, kingmen, Pharisees, Sadducees, and so forth) who came under the convicting words of Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, the Nephis and Almas, Helaman, Peter, Paul, et al., but especially the blistering rebukes of Jesus17? And if we think that only prophets and apostles are allowed to criticize, what should we make of this counsel to disciples (bold emphasis added):
6 And Jesus said unto his disciples, Beholdest thou the Scribes, and the Pharisees, and the Priests, and the Levites? They teach in their synagogues, but do not observe the law, nor the commandments; and all have gone out of the way, and are under sin.Always bearing in mind:
7 Go thou and say unto them, Why teach ye men the law and the commandments, when ye yourselves are the children of corruption?
8 Say unto them, Ye hypocrites, first cast out the beam out of thine own yes; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
9 Go ye into the world, saying unto all, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come nigh unto you (New Testament | JST Matthew 7:6-9; JST1876-NT, p. 10).
1 Now these are the words which Jesus taught his disciples that they should say unto the people. Judge not unrighteously, that ye be not judged; but judge righteous judgment.Every one of us is, by our nature, self-defensive, but if we are not honest in evaluating criticism of ourselves or our friends, would that not also be unrighteous judgment?
2 For with what judgment ye shall judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again (New Testament | JST Matthew 7:1-2).
24 Judge not according to your traditions, but judge righteous judgment (New Testament | JST John 7:24).
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1. The Three Sources of Moral Knowledge [Orientation]
(Jordan B Peterson Clips | Nov 6, 2023 | Time 12:34 min.) at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcIHP0d6az4 (archived at https://archive.org/)
Full episode at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfI2se3O80Q, or
https://www.dailywire.com/episode/a-conversation-about-god-dr-john-lennox
2. https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2024/02/moral-orientation-where-are-we.html
3. And yes, there are questions about things allegedly done under a transcendent / divine orientation, but how often in history have we seen God's name (mis)used to justify things not of God (a violation of the third commandment). To claim an Orientation is not the deciding word because Orientation Two often seeks to wrap itself in Orientation One, as we see in gender-affirming care. As to the wrath and anger of God for all our breaches: Justice does terrible things when repentance is rejected and Mercy unrequested. For the most part, we do not understand in the least, how fierce the character of Justice.
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides
https://genocideeducation.org/resources/modern-era-genocides/
https://wienerholocaustlibrary.org/what-we-do/learn/subject-guides/genocides/
https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Top-10-Worst-Genocides-in-History
Just a few for example:
Cathars Genocide (France, 1209-29 AD)
Duzangar Genocide ( China, 1755-58 AD)
Haiti Massacre (Haiti, 1804)
Moriori Genocide (New Zealand, 1835-63)
Circassian Genocide (Russian Empire, 1864-67)
Armenian Genocide ( Ottoman Empire, 1894-96)
Holodomor (Ukraine, 1932-33)
Romani Holocaust (German-occupied Europe, 1935-1945)
Rwandan genocide (Rwanda, 1994)
5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
Book: The Phoenix Program: America's Use of Terror in Vietnam by Douglas Valentine
6. https://nationalcitizensinquiry.ca/testimony/
7. Old Testament | Genesis 1:27-28, 31
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. ...
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
8. Pscience is the corrupted offshoot of honorable Science. It is the inevitable consequence of man's obsessive pursuit and protection of power, gain, glory, and domination. Pscience is pseudo, psychopathic, propagandizing, plagiarizing, politicized, psy-opic, and above all, profit-obsessed, and profit-driven. This obsessive pursuit and protection by people without conscience is often enabled by naïve, trusting, or fear-filled acolytes. Pscience is a one-faith, one-dogma, heretic-fearing, self-deceiving, other-censoring system.
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2021/12/when-pscience-becomes-god.html
https://dejavu-times.blogspot.com/2021/06/death-of-science-tyranny-of-pscience.html
https://dejavu-times.blogspot.com/2020/10/pscience.html
https://dejavu-times.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-representative-history-of-pscience.html
9. The Rape of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing by Dr. Joost A. M.Meerloo
10. https://dejavu-times.blogspot.com/2024/02/let-me-tell-you-truth-story.html
11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy
12. Various theories and studies on Developmental Psychology whether one agrees with them all or not: Piaget, Erikson, Marcia, Kohlberg, Bandura, Vygotsky, Spitz, Bowlby, Harlow, Ainsworth, Bettelheim, K&M Clark, Maccoby, Gelman, Dasen, Sheehy, et al.
13. Diversity | Equity | Inclusion
https://dejavu-times.blogspot.com/2023/03/dei-ology-great-pretense.html
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2023/07/back-to-future-again.html
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2023/04/let-us-be-clear.html
https://dejavu-times.blogspot.com/2023/04/correction-fwoke.html
14. Old Testament | 1 Samuel 8:5-6
5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
6 ¶ But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
https://voices-from-the-dust.blogspot.com/2024/01/447-warning-king-has-his-friends-in.html
https://voices-from-the-dust.blogspot.com/2024/01/447-warning-king-has-his-friends-in.html
15. If scorn, coercion, and censorship are what LGBTQ+ think they are suffering, perhaps some are, but for many their wish is to just live their chosen life without fanfare or coercion of others. The self-obsessed diva / divo (SOD) activists who have ruined the tolerance / acceptance of the past several decades by their demand for narcissistic supply and drive to dominate the culture have created a regrettable backlash. Their coercion of the culture is the opposite of the DEI they claim.
16. Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 1:9
9 Now it came to pass that there was a day set apart by the unbelievers, that all those who believed in those traditions should be put to death except the sign should come to pass, which had been given by Samuel the prophet.
17. https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2023/10/respecting-obeying-authority-what-did.html
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2023/10/respecting-obeying-authority-what-of.html
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2023/10/when-to-disrespect-authority.html
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2016/01/part-two-evil-speaking-discernment.html
https://dejavu-timestwo.blogspot.com/2022/03/speaking-truth-to-power-new-testament.html
